Comments on: HOW ABOUT A LITTLE CONTROVERSY WITH THAT COFFEE, ED? http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/ Hot spot for Republican, Conservative and Libertarian Hosts & Fans of Blog Talk Radio Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:58:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: bright http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-14 bright Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:57:41 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-14 I think that Chris is pointing out the attitude of much of the left. His dialogue in the second panel is dead on.<blockquote>Democrats see groups, not individuals - and how that group's aims might help<strong>them</strong></blockquote> I think that Chris is pointing out the attitude of much of the left. His dialogue in the second panel is dead on.
Democrats see groups, not individuals - and how that group’s aims might helpthem

]]> By: Kitty http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-15 Kitty Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:05:00 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-15 Spreading black stereotypes: Isn't that what Mrs. Bill Clinton is doing? ... Spreading black stereotypes: Isn’t that what Mrs. Bill Clinton is doing?

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]]> By: Sniper One http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-19 Sniper One Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:34:29 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-19 Yes, your a PC Closet Case, but that's ok; it takes all kinds. Lieberman was not pandering to the black community, or insulting them by not treating them as equals. When he was done up in Blackface. Lieberman was not attempting to be "black". Sen. Clinton is doing exactly that in order to try and get votes. Her actions are far more offensive than anything Don Imus got fired for. Yes, your a PC Closet Case, but that’s ok; it takes all kinds.

Lieberman was not pandering to the black community, or insulting them by not treating them as equals. When he was done up in Blackface. Lieberman was not attempting to be “black”.

Sen. Clinton is doing exactly that in order to try and get votes. Her actions are far more offensive than anything Don Imus got fired for.

]]> By: Muir Vs Moran : “7.62mm Justice” ™ http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-20 Muir Vs Moran : “7.62mm Justice” ™ Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:35:15 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-20 [...] Heading Right [...] […] Heading Right […]

]]> By: Day By Day: Crossing A Line? at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source. http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-28 Day By Day: Crossing A Line? at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source. Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:18:14 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-28 [...] Rick Moran of Right Wing Nut House criticized Chris Muir on his own blog and on Heading Right this morning: Considering how we conservatives trashed Jane (”you ignorant slut”) Hamsher for [...] […] Rick Moran of Right Wing Nut House criticized Chris Muir on his own blog and on Heading Right this morning: Considering how we conservatives trashed Jane (”you ignorant slut”) Hamsher for […]

]]> By: Nas http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-30 Nas Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:25:43 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-30 "Being sensitive to the real feelings of others is always the right thing to do regardless of intent or context." Hmmm, that sounds exactly like what Dean Betty Trachtenberg (who said that students could not use theatrical weapons on stage plays at Yale) said: "I think people should start thinking about other people rather than trying to feel sorry for themselves and thinking that the administration is trying to thwart their creativity," Trachtenberg said. "They're not using their own intelligence....We have to think of the people who might be affected by seeing real-life weapons." “Being sensitive to the real feelings of others is always the right thing to do regardless of intent or context.”

Hmmm, that sounds exactly like what Dean Betty Trachtenberg (who said that students could not use theatrical weapons on stage plays at Yale) said:

“I think people should start thinking about other people rather than trying to feel sorry for themselves and thinking that the administration is trying to thwart their creativity,” Trachtenberg said. “They’re not using their own intelligence….We have to think of the people who might be affected by seeing real-life weapons.”

]]> By: bob schmidt http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-33 bob schmidt Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:43:59 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-33 No line was crossed. It captured perfectly the essence of what Hillary's approach is all about: perpetuating stereotypes that at core and to some degree, based on her actions, she holds herself. No line was crossed. It captured perfectly the essence of what Hillary’s approach is all about: perpetuating stereotypes that at core and to some degree, based on her actions, she holds herself.

]]> By: Uncle Jefe http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-34 Uncle Jefe Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:46:15 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-34 Muir's use of blackface in this cartoon is completely appropriate. Hillary Clinton should be the one ashamed of her actions, as the pandering is bad enough, but the false black accent and hackneyed use of black cultural iconography are extremely insulting. Indeed, she may as well be wearing blackface. Muir’s use of blackface in this cartoon is completely appropriate. Hillary Clinton should be the one ashamed of her actions, as the pandering is bad enough, but the false black accent and hackneyed use of black cultural iconography are extremely insulting.
Indeed, she may as well be wearing blackface.

]]> By: CayuteKitt http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-36 CayuteKitt Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:53:34 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-36 "This is not political correctness per se, although there will be some racialists who would use Mr. Muir’s depiction to advance their own political agenda. Being sensitive to the real feelings of others is always the right thing to do regardless of intent or context." In this type of scenario, there will -always- be people whose feelings get hurt. Actually, it has gone so far as to enable people to be hurt whether something hurtful was said or not. People are, in fact, closely monitoring every written and spoken word by anyone of stature just for the express purpose of finding something, anything, to trip them up. What Chris Muir did by blackfacing Hillary Clinton was a masterful use of parody to illustrate just how abusive her pandering to potential African American constituents has become. My hat's off to him. Now matter how much of a stretch you 'moral equivalent' naysayers try for, it just won't wash this time. It's time we stop throwing our own under the bus every time the truth tweaks some Liberal's nose! “This is not political correctness per se, although there will be some racialists who would use Mr. Muir’s depiction to advance their own political agenda. Being sensitive to the real feelings of others is always the right thing to do regardless of intent or context.”

In this type of scenario, there will -always- be people whose feelings get hurt. Actually, it has gone so far as to enable people to be hurt whether something hurtful was said or not. People are, in fact, closely monitoring every written and spoken word by anyone of stature just for the express purpose of finding something, anything, to trip them up.

What Chris Muir did by blackfacing Hillary Clinton was a masterful use of parody to illustrate just how abusive her pandering to potential African American constituents has become. My hat’s off to him.

Now matter how much of a stretch you ‘moral equivalent’ naysayers try for, it just won’t wash this time. It’s time we stop throwing our own under the bus every time the truth tweaks some Liberal’s nose!

]]> By: Mooring Free Speech… | Cold Fury http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-37 Mooring Free Speech… | Cold Fury Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:50:22 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-37 [...] Moran isn’t fond of it either: Considering how we conservatives trashed Jane (”you ignorant slut”) Hamsher for [...] […] Moran isn’t fond of it either: Considering how we conservatives trashed Jane (”you ignorant slut”) Hamsher for […]

]]> By: Kathysayso http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-38 Kathysayso Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:18:43 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-38 ''...a clear reminder of times that most of us should be ashamed of.''??! Why should I be ashamed of anything done by other people prior to my arrival on the planet? I'm not responsible for their actions. I feel no shame or guilt for any atrocity not committed by me and me alone, and don't intend to be harangued into it by PC loons. That said, Hillary is a craven panderer and blackface is a fitting image for her. ”…a clear reminder of times that most of us should be ashamed of.”??! Why should I be ashamed of anything done by other people prior to my arrival on the planet? I’m not responsible for their actions. I feel no shame or guilt for any atrocity not committed by me and me alone, and don’t intend to be harangued into it by PC loons. That said, Hillary is a craven panderer and blackface is a fitting image for her.

]]> By: Al in St. Lou http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-40 Al in St. Lou Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:59:51 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-40 We must be clear on form versus substance. Although we have condemned other uses of blackface, must be condemn Muir's without regard to the underlying facts? I say no. As several have pointed out already, Hillary IS pandering, in a particularly insulting manner. In this instance, the image is fitting. We must be clear on form versus substance. Although we have condemned other uses of blackface, must be condemn Muir’s without regard to the underlying facts? I say no. As several have pointed out already, Hillary IS pandering, in a particularly insulting manner. In this instance, the image is fitting.

]]> By: Goatwhacker http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-43 Goatwhacker Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:31:54 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-43 Muir was absolutely wrong to depict Hillary in blackface, regardless of her political stances. It was also wrong for Lieberman to be depicted in blackface. This whole thing smacks too much of "it's OK if our side does it" which is essentially what some in here are saying. Muir was absolutely wrong to depict Hillary in blackface, regardless of her political stances. It was also wrong for Lieberman to be depicted in blackface. This whole thing smacks too much of “it’s OK if our side does it” which is essentially what some in here are saying.

]]> By: Bob in Sitka http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-44 Bob in Sitka Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:05:45 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-44 Just like to say well said CayuteKitt and uncle jefe. Just like to say well said CayuteKitt and uncle jefe.

]]> By: Patrick http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-45 Patrick Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:18:32 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-45 Big difference. Doctoring a photo of someone who did nothing wrong to mock them, vs an original cartoon of a woman who panders to black and Southern audiences by using lilting fake dialect and drawl. Plus the cartoon is really funny. Big difference. Doctoring a photo of someone who did nothing wrong to mock them, vs an original cartoon of a woman who panders to black and Southern audiences by using lilting fake dialect and drawl. Plus the cartoon is really funny.

]]> By: Uncle Jefe http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-47 Uncle Jefe Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:33:23 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-47 No, Goatwhacker, folks here are not saying “it’s OK if our side does it”. What you're missing is the difference in portraying someone as trying to pander to blacks, versus portraying someone who IS pandering to blacks. Is not the faux accent and use of black iconography by Hillary the same as putting on black face in this case? I submit that it is, when you look and listen. She's like a scene out of 'Blazing Saddles'... 'Oh, de Camptown ladies sing dis song, Doo Dar, Doo Dar...' No, Goatwhacker, folks here are not saying “it’s OK if our side does it”. What you’re missing is the difference in portraying someone as trying to pander to blacks, versus portraying someone who IS pandering to blacks.
Is not the faux accent and use of black iconography by Hillary the same as putting on black face in this case?
I submit that it is, when you look and listen.
She’s like a scene out of ‘Blazing Saddles’…
‘Oh, de Camptown ladies sing dis song, Doo Dar, Doo Dar…’

]]> By: Goatwhacker http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-50 Goatwhacker Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:57:32 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-50 I see what you're saying Jefe, but you are drawing a fine line that many people will not appreciate. The criticism by conservatives of the caricatures of Lieberman and Steele, not to mention the offensive cartoons of Condi Rice, was not so much that they were inaccurate but that they were inappropriate. Now people are trying to justify the Muir cartoon by saying it is accurate and that somehow justifies it also being inappropriate. Liberals would respond that they felt the Lieberman and Steele characterizations were also accurate. That still would not justify the use of offensive images. Of course with liberals there is the added aspect of their supposedly being more PC, then turning around and using racist images themselves. I know I am sounding like the PC police which is not my intent - I hate all the PC BS (and love Blazing Saddles) but I also hate hypocrisy which I think is what's happening here. I see what you’re saying Jefe, but you are drawing a fine line that many people will not appreciate. The criticism by conservatives of the caricatures of Lieberman and Steele, not to mention the offensive cartoons of Condi Rice, was not so much that they were inaccurate but that they were inappropriate. Now people are trying to justify the Muir cartoon by saying it is accurate and that somehow justifies it also being inappropriate.

Liberals would respond that they felt the Lieberman and Steele characterizations were also accurate. That still would not justify the use of offensive images. Of course with liberals there is the added aspect of their supposedly being more PC, then turning around and using racist images themselves.

I know I am sounding like the PC police which is not my intent - I hate all the PC BS (and love Blazing Saddles) but I also hate hypocrisy which I think is what’s happening here.

]]> By: Mike Soja http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-51 Mike Soja Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:26:38 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-51 The Lieberman and Steele images each were both inappropriate and inaccurate. In Lieberman's case, Hamsher was trying to say that Joe was the GOP's negro, and with Steele, the implication was that Steele was not black, or negro, enough. Both those are just a little different than pointing out that at least some of the time when Hillary is speaking to black audiences *she* tries to portray *herself* as being just that little bit o' black. It is Hillary who actually dons the blackface, and Muir simply illustrates it. The Lieberman and Steele images each were both inappropriate and inaccurate. In Lieberman’s case, Hamsher was trying to say that Joe was the GOP’s negro, and with Steele, the implication was that Steele was not black, or negro, enough. Both those are just a little different than pointing out that at least some of the time when Hillary is speaking to black audiences *she* tries to portray *herself* as being just that little bit o’ black. It is Hillary who actually dons the blackface, and Muir simply illustrates it.

]]> By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » Apr. 27, 2007: No, I’m Spartacus! http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-57 Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal » Blog Archive » Apr. 27, 2007: No, I’m Spartacus! Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:50:05 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-57 [...] Blend). On the right, the strip has outraged some (Captain’s Quarters, Right Wing Nut House, Heading Right, The Queen of All Evil, Blue Crab Boulevard), made apologists of others (Jon Swift, Composite [...] […] Blend). On the right, the strip has outraged some (Captain’s Quarters, Right Wing Nut House, Heading Right, The Queen of All Evil, Blue Crab Boulevard), made apologists of others (Jon Swift, Composite […]

]]> By: Right Wing Nut House » A SHORT AND RATHER UNNECESSARY RESPONSE TO CHRIS MUIR http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-58 Right Wing Nut House » A SHORT AND RATHER UNNECESSARY RESPONSE TO CHRIS MUIR Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:07:39 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-58 [...] (and, one would assume “kike” and “spic.”) He quotes from my piece at Heading Right to illustrate his [...] […] (and, one would assume “kike” and “spic.”) He quotes from my piece at Heading Right to illustrate his […]

]]> By: izzatxeaux http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-82 izzatxeaux Sun, 29 Apr 2007 17:41:15 +0000 http://headingright.com/2007/04/26/how-about-a-little-controversy-with-that-coffee-ed/#comment-82 “Being sensitive to the real feelings of others is always the right thing to do regardless of intent or context.” really ? but it's okay to call a cancer survivor currently undergoing chemo an "ignorant slut" ?!?!? fer shure . . . you're the gang that giggled at Rush mocking Michael J. Fox's Parkinsons, told the Tillman family that being "more christian" would assuage their grief, and deduced that a child rape victim "enjoyed it" unbelievable “Being sensitive to the real feelings of others is always the right thing to do regardless of intent or context.”

really ?

but it’s okay to call a cancer survivor currently undergoing chemo an “ignorant slut” ?!?!?

fer shure . . .

you’re the gang that giggled at Rush mocking Michael J. Fox’s Parkinsons, told the Tillman family that being “more christian” would assuage their grief, and deduced that a child rape victim “enjoyed it”

unbelievable

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